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177 - How Gender Ideology Came to Denmark with Jesper Rasmussen

"The Danes are very trusting people and very shy of conflict."

Sasha and Stella welcome Jesper Rasmussen, a Danish filmmaker, teacher, and head of the Rainbow Council, to the show, offering a critical look at pediatric gender medicine and the broader impact of gender ideology in Denmark.

Jesper describes himself as an 'unwoke' 18th-generation Dane with a love for derring-doers and dry wit. Known for his sharp satire and scathing commentary, Jesper brings a unique and unapologetic perspective to today's sex and gender debates.

In this episode, he reflects on his initial shock at how deeply gender ideology has taken root in Denmark, paralleling trends in the United States, especially regarding medical interventions for minors. He discusses the motivations behind the founding of the Danish Rainbow Council and their commitment to protecting the rights of children and women from the imposition of gender ideology in schools and public spaces. Listeners will gain insights into how cultural, medical, and ideological factors have shaped the approach to gender identity in Denmark and the impact of international influences.

The conversation explores the language and terminology surrounding pediatric gender transitions, examining the implications of terms like "sex change" and "gender-affirming care."

A key moment emerges when Jesper introduces three essential “yes/no” questions that that anyone can use to critically evaluate the issue and guide the debates around gender affirming medical interventions for minors. This episode vital for those attempting conversations about the medical and ethical aspects of pediatric gender transition.

As the discussion progresses, Jesper offers his reflections on the shifting landscape of Pride events, particularly in Copenhagen, touching on the influence of intersectional feminism and how these changes have affected public perception and support. Jesper’s insights into the intersection of LGBTQ+ rights with broader political movements offer a thought-provoking examination of the multifaceted challenges and evolving dynamics around sex and gender.

Resources & Links

@JesPerfekt on X

The Danish Rainbow Council // @regnbueraad on X


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We're honored to have had the pleasure of hosting Jesper and many of the other experts lined up to present at Genspect's upcoming Bigger Picture Conference in Lisbon, Portugal. Reserve your tickets today to save your spot for a powerfully engaging event, challenging the evidence base for gender medicine and addressing the widespread damage of gender identity ideology. With a focus on "Reframing the Future," Genspect is dedicated to shifting the conversation from identifying problems to exploring solutions. Presentations, panel discussions, debates, and a live-stream interview ensure that all sides of this complex issue are addressed in a compelling manner. We hope to see you there! (Livestream tickets are also available.)

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Gender: A Wider Lens
In this podcast, now in its fourth year, therapists Stella O'Malley and Sasha Ayad take a deep dive into the psychological and cultural forces impacting the social changes around "gender." Through interviews with researchers, doctors, therapists, parents, detransitioners, and others, Sasha and Stella's podcast is a "must listen" for anyone trying to navigate the current gender landscape. With their sharp analytical minds and deep compassionate hearts, Stella and Sasha have also become known throughout many parent networks as lighthouses in the midst of some very stormy seas. Previous guests include Helen Joyce, Jesse Singal, Leor Sapir, Kathleen Stock, Jamie Reed, Peter Boghossian and more.