Really interesting to see this perspective. BUT. It seems what is really missing from the discussion is the effect of gender identity ideology on the most disadvantaged children who end up in the care system, and are transitioned while in care. This is a race issue, as children in care are disproportionately non-white. It is also very different from the way gender ideology affects middle class children (mostly white, but including middle class black children of Nigerian immigrants like Nevline Nnaji). I think that Jonathan Haidt misses this other phenomenon, and it really needs a serious look.
Lois Cardinal (Duchess Louise of Alberta on Twitter) has pointed out that First Nations children in Canada are the most likely to be medically transitioned, because so many of them are in the care system, many have severe issues (histories of abuse etc) which lead to mental health problems that manifest in gender, and once you are in the care system, you are affirmed unquestioningly. (If you don't affirm, you cannot foster children.) Please can you do an episode on this issue. If Lois' claims are correct, it is a real social justice issue. Is it really true that Canada is sterilising indigenous children in the name of progress? In 2024?
I've just started listening to this episode and had to comment that females going into male only spaces also changes the dynamic. Both sexes should have spaces that only their sex are allowed.
Thank you for this episode, it was so interesting !
I totally agree about the need for women-only sport's club. I discovered French boxing last year and absolutely loved it. But it was so frustrating to train with men who were better than me, not because they've been training for longer, had better technique or were just more talented, but because they're men. They are taller, stronger, faster, more powerful. I've been struggling with envying men's physical capacities since early teenagehood and it was really depressing for me to be confronted to it while doing something I was otherwise loving to do.
Really interesting to see this perspective. BUT. It seems what is really missing from the discussion is the effect of gender identity ideology on the most disadvantaged children who end up in the care system, and are transitioned while in care. This is a race issue, as children in care are disproportionately non-white. It is also very different from the way gender ideology affects middle class children (mostly white, but including middle class black children of Nigerian immigrants like Nevline Nnaji). I think that Jonathan Haidt misses this other phenomenon, and it really needs a serious look.
Lois Cardinal (Duchess Louise of Alberta on Twitter) has pointed out that First Nations children in Canada are the most likely to be medically transitioned, because so many of them are in the care system, many have severe issues (histories of abuse etc) which lead to mental health problems that manifest in gender, and once you are in the care system, you are affirmed unquestioningly. (If you don't affirm, you cannot foster children.) Please can you do an episode on this issue. If Lois' claims are correct, it is a real social justice issue. Is it really true that Canada is sterilising indigenous children in the name of progress? In 2024?
Thank you so much for raising these issues. We will definitely look into this.
I've just started listening to this episode and had to comment that females going into male only spaces also changes the dynamic. Both sexes should have spaces that only their sex are allowed.
Thank you for this episode, it was so interesting !
I totally agree about the need for women-only sport's club. I discovered French boxing last year and absolutely loved it. But it was so frustrating to train with men who were better than me, not because they've been training for longer, had better technique or were just more talented, but because they're men. They are taller, stronger, faster, more powerful. I've been struggling with envying men's physical capacities since early teenagehood and it was really depressing for me to be confronted to it while doing something I was otherwise loving to do.