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Meredith Bell Brown's avatar

Really wish I could join but I am seeing one of the friends I can count on to understand my perspective and support our family. These people who have known my child since before the gender nonsense are precious few and far between!

The arguments Mia has made resonate with me and I also wonder how this applies to my daughter. She is not mentally ill. She's actually highly functioning and thinks we are crazy not to affirm. A young lesbian who seems set against being seen that way, in her case there was no mental health condition prior to her announcement that she's a boy (at 13, now we're at 17), and there's no evidence of a mental health condition currently, at least nothing besides her insistence that we view and treat her as the opposite sex. No depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, physical violence, etc., and no cluster B tendencies beyond the self-centeredness normal for a teenager. She accepts that she's female and yet insists she's a boy. She's not insisting on medicalizing either. We think she has rationally thought herself into this identity. Until the incentives change, I can't see her thinking herself out of it.

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Shoot. This sounds SO interesting but I will miss it as I will be visiting the child for whom I am here…🥴.

This is way over my head so can you explain- does RE-psychopathologizing mean the condition of gender dysphoria will be considered a mental illness? If so, then what are the ramifications of that? And especially what are the ramifications when the world is seemingly full of activists in every single aspect of society that are in no way going to pack up and move on? In fact they think they are saving kids, so it would be immoral for them to stop promoting trans rights.

The idea of an extreme over valued belief does resonate with me in general. Trans ideology is absolutely an over valued belief— the “science is settled, #nodebate, trans women are women!”

Hopefully you will be able to write up a summary and post it here? I want to learn about this. Thank you Sasha and Stella for having this discussion!

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